Shaping, Permissiveness, Training, and Later -- Harper B

Yes, the more links/videos, the better for those of us learning. I learn better by watching/observing, it seems. I just want to make sure I am doing this correctly and setting my pups up for as much success as I can. I worry that I am doing things wrong.
Another question, all dogs learn differently, just like us, yes? Some may pick it up faster than others? Is that a fair assumption? And thanks, this is all really great info ladies! Woot!

Thanks for reminding everyone that training goals, whether they are having a nicely behaved dog or having a competition dog, can be accomplished without the use of compulsion. I remember how appalled I was when someone suggested that I force fetch a retrieve because my dog did not have much natural retrieve drive. Guess what? I completely shaped a retrieve and now my dog has a wonderful dummbell fetch and a happy attitude :) I couldn't imagine pinching those sweet ears just for the sake of getting a retrieve. I couldn't imagine doing anything to hurt my dog just to get a certain behaviour. Yet, it seems to be the norm among many people that you set your dog up to fail in order to correct them and make them do it right. Sad. Is it not better to just set our dogs up to succeed from the start? I guess people can train the way they want but at the end of the day when I look in my dogs' eyes I don't want to have any regrets about the way I have treated them, especially for the sake of a few ribbons.

Could I ask you to go on a bit about what "is" a correction? For example, as you may remember from Camp Kaibab, Maddie's original tracking style was both wild and wide--her preferred pace was a brisk trot and she preferred to 'fringe' four or five feet to one side or the other of the track. This rather sloppy exuberance was OK for us to pass the TD test, but it wasn't good enough to pass the TDX. In fact, it was this too wide habit that got us lost on the last corner of an otherwise outstanding TDX track last year. The trainer I'm working with now is adamant that a dog should never, ever be corrected while tracking (it's demotivating), and I agree--you can take an unmotivated dog out in the field but you won't ever get them to track! So how to get her to work close to the track? We started with tracks on which I knew exactly where the centerline was. When Maddie started to move off the track I said "Phoey" and just stood fast, refusing to let her move forward. When she was on the track I said "good such" and let the line run loose as I followed her, where she often found a treat. She's now working spot on the track, unfazed by turns, terrain, cross-tracks or length. (We still have a wall with tracks over 1:45 old, but that's another story.) So my question for the blog is, in the context of behavioral science, etc., what constitutes a 'correction', and thus a training technique to be avoided? Saying "phoey' in a neutral tone seems to me to be only telling the dog that this isn't what I wanted so try it again. Do you think that holding fast on the line constitutes a correction, or is it likewise a neutral?

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